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Posted 07 November 2009 18:24
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IMO boycotting the next election would be the most foolish of options. Everybody should stand up and be counted, and for any ladies who are thinking of not bothering, please remember the suffragettes.

Helen

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Posted 07 November 2009 18:30
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Derek

that`s the first time I`ve heard it called a `fair and appropriate compensation`.  I and many others would refer it to theiving from the taxpayer.

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Posted 07 November 2009 18:33
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Chickadee,

That is what it was. Even the respective party leaders have condemned the practice. I fear you may have to wait longer for DK to concede that any wrongdoing has taken place. No doubt you and I will now be told to go and live elsewhere if we don't like it!

Helen

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Posted 07 November 2009 18:47
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Helen

Once I`ve reached my pittance pension age (unlike our MPs gold plated pensions) which I`ve work honestly for, for over 39yrs now, I will certainly be off like a shot.  Unlike our MPs I will not be able to afford the energy bills come retirement age and so warmer climates prevail.   

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Posted 07 November 2009 22:18
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Fellow lightweights!!!!

This guy is being paid £100000 to come out with these proposals. It appears to me they have just added yet another passenger onto the gravy train.

As for MPs getting a pay rise to 'compensate' them for not being able to fiddle their expenses they should be given a pay rise in line with the rest of the public services eg teachers, nurses, police, binmen, lunchtime supervisors. Since we will now be largely ruled by the EU do we need so many MPs and MEPs? Maybe now is the time to make constituencies larger by amalgamation thus reducing drastically the number of MPs we have. Maybe then we could afford to pay them a little more to take into account the wider area in their care whilst at the same time reducing the burden of pay and 'expenses' on the taxpayer.

Gary

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Posted 07 November 2009 22:20
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Chickadee/Helen:

There has been wrongdoing by some MPs, of all parties.

There still remains the issue of a fair compensation package of salaries & expenses for a job that requires an MP to be at Westminster and also in consultation with his constituents in his/her constituency be it as close as a division for Kensington & Chelsea or as far away as the Shetland Islands, as close as Stepney & Poplar or as far away as Penzance, as close as Clapham or as far away as Carlisle, or as close as Fulham or as far away as Rhyl.

Derek “The Monocled Mutineer” Kane

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Posted 07 November 2009 22:28
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Derek, nobody is disputing that. I feel that you have maybe failed to grasp how outraged the average British taxpayer feels over the swindling that has gone on (across all the major parties.) The sad truth is that a lot of people now feel disinclined to vote for any of them ( i do not include myself.) A few - no actually, a lot, of greedy individuals have brought shame upon their parties and the system.

Helen

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Posted 07 November 2009 22:32
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Helen:

I do not dispute your view that there is outrage.  In my view I feel the outrage is well over the top.  I go back to my "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" analogy.

For incumbent MPs who are standing again in 2010, their record on serving their constituents or not, and whether they were fairly compensated for genuine expenses or milked it, can be tested, by their electorate.

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Posted 07 November 2009 22:34
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Expenses could be tightened up overnight by the issue of travel warrants (as used by HM Forces) for MPs travelling on official business. Accommodation could be provided in hostel blocks specifically designed with adequate security for the sole purose of providing accommodation for MPs. If they want friends and family to stay they would have to pay just like the rest of us do. Dining facilities which mirror those in Westminster (which are vastly subsidised) in the hostels would provide sustenance for the period of their stay. Transport to and from Westminster would be provided.

The military already have similar systems which appear to work quite well. Such a system would negate any opportunity to have a moat cleaned, a duck house provided or any confusion over which is the main home. Perhaps this explains why MPs would not welcome any solution such as this.

Gary

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Posted 07 November 2009 22:37
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And hopefully it will be. However, I find it objectionable that a number of Members, having been named and shamed and (in some cases) agreeable to paying back some of our money, will not stand down until the next election, thus keeping considerable financial benefits that they would forfeit if resigning earlier.

Helen

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